Thursday, January 06, 2005

FROM BAD TO WORSE


It seems that we returned back to two years ago, just after Baghdad fall. we have a fuel problem for more than two months and it’s getting worse and worse, it’s affecting everything even the national electricity, which we used to have between 8-12 hours a day. now we have them only for 4 hours a day. we have 2 hours Elect. for every 10 hours off. Just like we used to had it 2 years ago.
We can’t operate the generator that long, not more than 3-4 hours and then we have to give it a rest, beside the fuel is very expensive in the black market. today we bought the 20 litter of fuel for 10000 ID while you could have the same quantity in the petrol station for 400 ID only!! but you have to be so patient that you can stand in the line for 12 hours. Yes, yes, yes, today I think for the length of the line of cars waiting in line it should take more than 12 hours to reach your turn, It’s more than 5 KM long!!!! I think It should be recorded in Gennis book for the record. The operator of our local generator which works on Diesel reduced the working hours because the fuel became very expensive and the owner said it’s tripled than before (two months ago) so he operates it for only 6 hours a day. the problem is not when you stayed with or without elec. the problem is with water you can’t operate the heater on the generator it needs a lot of energy the generator could not give it. the weather is cold and the water is freezing and you have to heat the water for many purposes. many of the house work can’t be done without elect. beside how can you explain that we don’t have elec’ to a 3 years old daughter when she wants to see her favorite cartoon!!.
things are not getting bad only for feul, but also in security. last Friday two hairdresser shops for females were blown up in my street at about 9 pm. nobody was in them but they had bad damage not only to them but also the shops near them. also some male hair dresser shops were exploded in other parts of Baghdad in the past days and they said the terrorist told them that they were doing some feminine things in their shops, not only cutting hairs. now I don’t know why they exploded the female shops. maybe they want us not to cut our hair and look like men!!!!!. I still don’t understand how these terrorists could escape while there are two police cars standing at each end of our street?. those criminals are acting just the way they like, every one hate anyone can go and kill him or blow up his house or shop. Now I don’t trust my government what did they do to us till now? NOTHING and the terrorists seem like they are getting control of the situation very well and not getting weak at all as we heard on TV, It’s all lies. I don’t know what they have done in Falluja beside of damaging the city.
In Mosul it’s getting worse also. two days ago there was a battle near my sister’s house for four hours. my sister said that her mother in law went to bring my sister’s daughter from school which is near to their house, and on her way back home a battle started in the middle of the day, near their school. Her mother in law and my niece were so terrified they couldn’t escape and the bullets were around them, all the houses near them were closed and nobody could open the door to them. they sat near a fence, till a small man in shop which was almost closed opened a little and a man shouted to them to come to his shop. the man was inside the shop hiding when he saw them sitting and my 6 years old niece were crying. some children could escape and came to the shop and the man closed it’s door. They stayed there for 3 hours. the children were so terrified and they were all crying. my sister’s father in law could not return to his house because all the area was closed, another strange man asked him if he lives in that area and could not enter it, when he answered yes, he invited him to his house and he was strange to him and he stayed there for 3 hours where they even served him lunch.
The terrorists as my sister said escaped. she wished they were caught, they were in two cars but they ran away.
I wonder what those gangs want from us, they only hurt us and I don’t think by bombing few shops or fuel pipes the Americans would leave us, there must be something else in their minds, if they have any.
I heard that the suicide bomber who exploded himself in the American camp in Mousil was not Iraqi, he was a medical student, from Saudi Arabia, studying in the capital of Suddan. I don’t think we have Iraqis suicide bombers it’s not our way and it has never been. All the major operations were made by terrorists who came from outside the country.

killing our police, our guards, destroying our infrastructure. They all made by those terriosts. maybe we have some of our ex-regime helping them in information. I don’t know how someone have all this hate against his own people. But still things are getting worse and I still don’t think that the elections will make any difference if they were held in time, and I still want the election to be postponed till the government could handle the situation in Baghdad and Mosul. Mosul is the second largest city in Iraq and they can’t neglected it in the elections. I asked all my family, relatives, friends if they will vote in the coming elections. all their answers were they wished very much but with these situation they could not. one of my relatives said he is not only afraid from bombing the centers of elections but he is afraid if someone sees him and knows his name or other information, he might hurt him or his family later on. The terrorists are threatening any person who will vote, that he might get killed.
So is it getting from BAD to WORSE or not?





163 Comments:

Blogger Lynn in the US said...

They should have mail in ballots. The very WORST thing that you can do is allow these terrorists to win. I think that every Iraqi person needs to open their eyes and look around them. You need to take notice of people's behaviors and report anything that is out of the ordinary. There should be ways to do this anonymously for those of you that do not trust anyone. It is up to you ordinary Iraqi citizens to get the terrorists out. Make it clear that you do not need them to help you rebuild your country. They are delusional thinking that they are doing anything to benefit you. This war could have been over a long time go if it wasn't for them.

2:39 PM  
Blogger johninnz said...

Lynn in the US. I’m sure you want to help, but are your suggestions realistic? You say Rose should "report anything that is out of the ordinary." But as I understand it nothing there is ordinary any more. Report to whom? The Police and ING are totally penetrated by the insurgents, the US troops are holed up in forts and shoot at you if you go near their patrols.
And making anonymous allegations sounds just like Saddam’s police state to me.
Look at your last paragraph, "It is up to you ordinary Iraqi citizens to get the terrorists out. Make it clear that you do not need them to help you rebuild your country. They are delusional thinking that they are doing anything to benefit you. This war could have been over a long time go if it wasn't for them." Now change the word "terrorists" to "Americans."
Ordinary Iraqi people like Rose aren’t to blame for what’s happened. Surely it is the responsibility of the people who conquered the country to now make it secure?
If they can.

5:59 PM  
Blogger dancewater said...

Rose, I am so sorry for the terrible conditions you are living under. I wish there was something I could do to help, but I can't think of anything. You, and all Iraqis are in my thoughts and prayers.

Lynn - if the US military cannot control the insurgents, what can ordinary Iraqis possibly do? Get a grip, please.

7:50 PM  
Blogger Lynn in the US said...

John, you say "Surely it is the responsibility of the people who conquered the country to now make it secure?"
You are wrong there. It is the responsibility of the Iraqis to secure their country. It is not the Iraqis that are committing these terrorist crimes. It is the foreigners that want to install an islamic regime in that country that are doing these things. They are not killing innocent people for a love for the Iraqi people. They are sacrificing these innocent lives to wear the people down and instill so much fear that the only thing that they think will save them is a hardline islamic government.
You say,"the US troops are holed up in forts and shoot at you if you go near their patrols." Is that true Rose? I don't think so. I do believe that people could be afraid to walk up to any troops in case they are seen by an insurgent that could even be their neighbor. I don't think the anonymous tips would be anything like Saddam's regime.
So, John, do you really think that the best thing would be for the coalition to just pack up and leave? I'd be all for that myself but then what would happen? Do you think that things would get magically improve?

7:53 PM  
Blogger knitbug said...

Rose,

Your diary certainly makes the war very real, in a way that the US government and media have not. I have been following you for quite awhile now, and really appreciate and respect your willingness to share your life with this community of bloggers. I wish I could do something to help, beyond keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

I am so sorry you are going through this, but again, I thank you for sharing. Warmest regards to you and your family -- stay safe!

8:35 PM  
Blogger johninnz said...

Lynn in the US. I think you have to acknowledge the sad fact that most of the present violence in Iraq, which is making Rose’s life so difficult, is not coming from a few semi-mythical foreign terrorists but from Iraqis themselves - their own Defence Minister has just estimated the size of the active Resistance at 200,000 or so.
And it’s very unlikely that these elections that everyone is waiting for are going to make things any better - Rose doesn’t think they will. Iraq needs stability and security first, then elections, not the other way round.
But the antagonism that has developed between the Resistance and the US/ING seems to be way beyond resolution now. More Fallujahs won’t solve anything - to get at a few thousand "bad guys" the Marines have destroyed a city and made 300,000 people refugees. You can’t repeat that in Mosul, Baghdad, and every other city.
Perhaps it comes down to what is going to produce the least number of dead, injured and homeless Iraqis in the long run - and most of the Iraqi Blogs that I see deny that Shia and Sunni are really implacable enemies. Maybe if they were left to themselves they would find a way to work it out. But the errors made by your government have produced a hatred of the US that just grows worse by the day. "Pack up and leave" might be not the best thing to do, but the only thing to do.

1:42 AM  
Blogger TxRockhound said...

Rose,

I am so sorry to hear that things are getting bad again. I am interested to know if there are discernible differences in these things depending on where you are in the city? It seems like other blogs have recently reported that fuel lines and prices have gotten better and that electricity is more available now than a month ago. Do you think this is related to changes in where the terrorists are operating from week to week or month to month?

On the subject of the elections, if you don't vote and your family doesn't, then the terrorists win. They are doing all of what they are doing because they do not believe in letting people decide for themselves who governs them. The situation was illustrated brilliantly in Spain last year when terrorists bombed the train in Madrid and claimed it was retaliation for Spanish involvement in Iraq. When the Spanish people voted to get rid of that government, they sent a very clear message to the terrorists that any time Spain did something the terrorists didn't like, all they have to do is bomb another train full of innocent people and the voters will do what the terrorists want. Similarly, if people do not show up to vote out of fear, then the terrorists get a clear message that they can control the country simply by threatening to blow things up. If on the other hand, people defy them and go vote, and the new government has the full support of all of those who voted, then the terrorists will have to face the reality that their terror cannot keep Iraqis from deciding for themselves how they want their country to be run. I know that it will take great faith and great courage for many to go vote, but doing so is the best way most Iraqis have to send a clear message to the terrorists that they are no welcome and do not have the support of ordinary Iraqis.

John,

Your 200,000 figure I believe is an order of magnitude high. The number I saw him use was 20-30,000. Still a huge number, but also not an insurmountable figure, since I believe that many of that number believe they are fighting an "installed government". If they see that the government has the supprot of the Iraqi people, and that the new government will work to fix the problems Rose has mentioned, I think many will lay down their weapons and go home. If they don't, I am sure the Coalition and ING will continue to hunt them down and exterminate them like the vermin that they are.

8:16 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

I'm just here to listen and learn, not to argue!

It's funny, Rose, but I have been reading about the fuel shortages and electricity shortages in Baghdad and it made me think of you and little Rosie and your husband and wonder how you were doing with all that. Then you wrote your post!

I wish I could trade you for a while, Rose, and give you a break from all that. Only I don't know if little Rosie would like the cartoons over here!

I hope it works out soon, I really do.

Jeff

9:12 AM  
Blogger johninnz said...

TxRockhound. That’s the problem, isn’t it, you believe the number fighting is lower, but you don’t know for sure, it seems that nobody does. Also the "terrorist" label may be misleading - others call them insurgents, or the Resistance. Or patriots. And what’s also unknown is the degree of sympathy and support behind them, feeding and supplying and helping. The Coalition and ING may want to hunt them down like vermin, but they haven’t had much success so far.
What does seem certain is that they are going to try very hard to disrupt the elections.
Put yourself in Rose’s situation - a mother with a small child. Should she risk her life on Voting day in the hope that this will produce a great improvement? (And given the present situation it’s definitely just a hope, not a guarantee.) I’m not sure how it’s all meant to work, but presumably at some stage she, and millions like her, would have to spend some time, possibly several hours, waiting in a queue and not knowing if a mortar shell is suddenly going to blow her life apart. Is it fair to tell her she should do that? I would like to say yes, it’s a matter of principle. But I don’t think I can. Was she owed a better chance than that by the nations that chose to conquer of her country?

9:59 AM  
Blogger TxRockhound said...

John,

What I am referring to is that the minister said he felt there were 20,000 terrorists, not 200,000. The 200,000 was a number thought to be supporting or supportive of them. It paints a different picture if viewed that way. The terrorists number 20K and have maybe 200K supporting them. The Coalition and ING have 150K+ and 25 million or so supporting them. Which do you think will win? I am sure if you only watch CNN or BBC, you get the picture that we aren't making much headway against the terrorists, but we are. Read some of the other blogs and check arthur chernikoff's "good news from iraq" reports from time to time and you will see alot of things not covered on CNN or BBC. If you look at what the terrorists hope to accomplish, you recognize that it will get worse in the next few weeks. Just as candidates for office will be making their last frenetic push to get their message to the voters, the terrorists will be making their big push to keep the Iraqi people from voting to be free (or the exercising the freedom to vote).

As for my thoughts on Rose and her child and whether she should vote, I can only offer this. It is obviously a terribly difficult situation to be in. There is almost certainly nothing that you or I or any person living in a Western country has gone through at any point in our lifetimes that would compare to the decision Iraqis have to face. However, I read an Iraqi somewhere put it this way (I am paraphrasing): "I will go to vote, knowing that I might get taken from my children by a terrorist's bomb. But in doing so, I will hopefully make sure that my children will have the freedom to vote in the future free of such hazards." What he meant was that if Iraqis stay away from the polls this time due to threats of terrorism, then the terrorists will know with absolute certainty that they can affect the outcome or occurrence of any future elections simply by threatening people with harm if they vote.

Oh and one last thing...you can call them anything you want. Anybody who bombs hair salons, school buses, and other civilians, and who hacks the head off of a woman who has dedicated her life to providing aid to needy Iraqis is not anything but an animal, and they are not fighting for Iraq if they are doing so. They can call themselves anything they want, but it doesn't change the truth about what they are. They seek to create change in Iraq by terrorizing the innocent civilian population. Therefore they are terrorists...period, end of story.

11:18 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Rose, I have the right to vote and without fear. All I can say is it is something I cherish. I have my little say in what goes on in my neighborhood, city, state and country. What I have found is that voters, overall, do a pretty good job - even when I disagree sometimes with the outcome of the vote. I can't say what I would do if I were in your shoes. I am not. But in my shoes I would find out as much as possible about who and what I would be voting for. I wouldn't let anyone know if I was voting or not. When anyone ask me I would say I'm still trying to decide if the best that can happen to me has the greater chance if I vote or if I don't. But on voting day I would walk out the door and cast my ballot. If my neighbors do the same thing it will be hard to punish all of us. The feeling when you walk back in the door in one piece will be indescribable. Also, please know that there are many of us who every time we turn on and off a light, or drive into the gas station with no line, we think of you. It is my hope that this time next year your days will more resemble mine and you realize how brave you have been.

12:00 PM  
Blogger jane said...

I just thought of something else. You have been on my mind all day. The beauty shop bombing - maybe someone in your neighborhood doesn't think women should be free. Maybe they would like to see you covered from head to toe, a servant. Read about the women in Afghanistan under the Taliban. There is also a book called Reading Lolita in Tehran. Some people, for some strange reason would like to not only turn the clock back to the dark ages, but make things darker still. Don't let them win - you are too special.

6:34 PM  
Blogger KT said...

Hi Rose,

You have to do what's best for you and your family, whatever that is, including not voting or voting. Your heart will tell you the right thing to do.

I think everyone is fooling themselves if they didn't see all of this coming. It would have been nice if everyone was part of the process of building Iraq, but the country is up for grabs, and we can expect no less from those who seek control over the people and the resources. They will do it no matter if the coalition is there or not; and it is a shame as you say, that they are doing it in their own back yard and to their own people. I agree with Lynn that there are things that Iraqis could do, but I understand why they would not.

7:16 PM  
Blogger johninnz said...

TxRockhound: Well I don’t want to clutter up Rose’s blog getting into speculative arguments about how big the Resistance is, and whether some of it is "patriotic" rather than "terrorist." The fact is that it’s there, and especially in Baghdad it’s making these elections look very chancy.
Nor do I want to be seen to be giving Rose advice. But in my view she and women like her could be, under present conditions, putting themselves in the front line on voting day. Maybe I’m old-fashioned and sexist in my attitudes towards women, but that doesn’t sound right to me. She’s not a soldier, she’s a wife and mother and the immediate welfare of her child, ie the safety of her mother, may be more important to her than the child’s theoretical future freedom - and I couldn't judge her for thinking that way.
Ensuring security for the elections is the responsibility of those currently in charge in Iraq. They chose to go there and take over.

7:33 PM  
Blogger Zipcard2 said...

Rose, May peace be with you and your daughter whatever you decide to do. No one will judge you because no one is in your shoes. Out of all these people commenting on your blog, YOU are the only one who knows what the true everyday Iraqi is like, you say they aren't and never have been suicide bombers and I tend to believe you. You certainly are the expert in this forum! People seem to forget others coming from outside the country doing these dispicable acts.
Take the advice for what it is worth and know our prayers are with you. Do what is in your heart, whatever that ends up being. Take Care Of Yourselves!!

8:20 PM  
Blogger Lynn in the US said...

Rose,
I wish to God that you and your family did not have to be going through this right now. It all seems so ridiculous in this so called "civilized" age. I wonder if any of these fighters stopped for just a minute after the news of the tsunami and it's devastation and thought about what is really important. Not power, not money but LIFE!
This discussion of whether or not you should get out to vote reminds me of the civil rights movement in this country. The south was a terrible place to be if you were a "colored" person. They stood up and demanded their rights and that took a lot of bravery. They did not necessarily know who their enemies were (KKK wore cloaks). Not every white person was evil, many many were helping them in their struggle. The whites who helped them were putting their lives and the lives of their families in danger as well. Registering to vote was a serious danger to live and limb. The thing is though Rose, they knew that if they didn't do it their lives could not ever get better. Their lives did not magically improve the day after the elections but it was worth it in the long run and these people are heroes to their decendents. You need some heroes in Iraq.
Peace, and be safe Rose

8:30 AM  
Blogger johninnz said...

(Reuters) - "The U.S. military said on Saturday a bomb dropped by one of its planes during a mission in northern Iraq hit the wrong target and it "deeply regrets the loss of possibly innocent lives."
The bomb destroyed a villa in the village of Aaytha near the city of Mosul. Locals said 14 people were killed ...
"The house was not the intended target for the air strike. The intended target was another location nearby," it said."
Other reports state that most of the dead were women and children. How can a child be only "possibly" innocent? How?
There’s been some discussion here about the size and nature of the insurgency. It is so depressing to think that whoever inserted that one unnecessary word into the military press release has probably created another few hundred "terrorists." Who will try to disrupt the elections. How can they be held under these conditions?

4:05 AM  
Blogger Mister Ghost said...

Rose,
You and your fellow Sunnis can't give in to cowardice.
GET OUT AND VOTE!Here's a 9/28/04 NY TIMES Op Ed from David Brooks
that shows what Salvadorans faced, a much worse situation than Iraq, but they exhibited courage and went to the polls. . .

Conditions were horrible when Salvadorans went to the polls on March 28, 1982. The country was in the midst of a civil war that would take 75,000 lives. An insurgent army controlled about a third of the nation's territory. Just before election day, the insurgents stepped up their terror campaign. They attacked the National Palace, staged highway assaults that cut the nation in two and blew up schools that were to be polling places.

Yet voters came out in the hundreds of thousands. In some towns, they had to duck beneath sniper fire to get to the polls. In San Salvador, a bomb went off near a line of people waiting outside a polling station. The people scattered, then the line reformed. "This nation may be falling apart," one voter told The Christian Science Monitor, "but by voting we may help to hold it together."

Conditions were scarcely better in 1984, when Salvadorans got to vote again. Nearly a fifth of the municipalities were not able to participate in the elections because they were under guerrilla control. The insurgents mined the roads to cut off bus service to 40 percent of the country. Twenty bombs were planted around the town of San Miguel. Once again, people voted with the sound of howitzers in the background.

Yet these elections proved how resilient democracy is, how even in the most chaotic circumstances, meaningful elections can be held.

They produced a National Assembly, and a president, José Napoleón Duarte. They gave the decent majority a chance to display their own courage and dignity. War, tyranny and occupation sap dignity, but voting restores it.

The elections achieved something else: They undermined the insurgency. El Salvador wasn't transformed overnight. But with each succeeding election into the early 90's, the rebels on the left and the death squads on the right grew weaker, and finally peace was achieved, and the entire hemisphere felt the effects.

1:04 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Rose, you're alive! You don't need advice from a Ghost!

Jeff

7:19 PM  
Blogger TxRockhound said...

In my previous comment, I wasn't trying to tell Rose what she should or should not do. The point of posting the comment from another Iraqi about the vote being about his children's future was to provoke thoughts beyond the safety of today or tomorrow. If the choice is setup as a decision between voting on the 30th and possibly dying in a terrorist attack, or not voting and living another day with one's child, the choice is obvious. But when the timeframe for the effects of that choice are expanded beyond the day after the vote, then one has to consider the effects of all of the Sunnis staying home and not voting. It is a sure bet to provide the spark to ignite the civil war that the terrorists so far have been unable to provoke. If the rest of the country moves on with their government after election day, and none of the Sunnis went to the polls to vote, they will not be represented in the government. So, while they may have lived to see another day, the future of Iraq, and their children's future will be decided without their input and without anybody balancing the desire by some Shia to institute Sharia.

The decision will still be on the shoulders of Rose and people like her to go vote. However, they should not be deluded into thinking that if they don't show up, the elections will be called off and rescheduled for another time. Once the elections are held, the government will move forward...with or without the Sunnis.

On the other hand, Allawi is making noises about a brief delay in the vote. I really hope that this doesn't happen, because it will prove to the terrorists that they have the ability to delay the vote with their acts and will redouble their motivation to ramp up their attacks even further. If the people living in the "Sunni Triangle" want the elections to proceed safely, it is up to them to work WITH the police and ING (and yes, the Coalition forces) to root out the terrorists. Unfortunately, a few people who valued the old regime more than their country's freedom made the choice to aid the terrorists. Now that the terrorists have decided to start killing other Iraqis, it is up to their neighbors to start turning them in. The troops looking for them won't succeed until they do.

3:25 PM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

Greetings, health and happiness and safety to you and yours.

But, my wishes or nine hundred and ninety nine billion good wishes, won't do you any good, not one drop of good.

The same goes for advice and for reasons or excuses or predictions or any other form of verbage, words or discussions.

THIS IS A WAR, A WAR THAT WILL BE WON, IN ONE YEAR, TEN YEARS, A HUNDRED YEARS. ONE SIDE WILL WIN, ONE SIDE WILL LOSE. THE INNOCENTS INBETWEEN WILL DIE, BE WOUNDED, LOSE THEIR HOMES AND THEIR COMMERCE.

I can tell you that is just the way war is. Does that make it any better for those involved? I can tell everyone not involved, that their words and feelings are just wasted, does that make you feel any worse?

Everyone just wants no war and everything to be back to some kind of normal. Well, guess what, that is not going to happen until thousands, or even millions are dead and the blood runs like the oceans.

Why, because this is the continuation of a war that is two thousand years old. Islamic/Arab/Muslim/Persian extreamists and others are determined to wipe out anyone that does not prescribe and practice their brand of beliefs, religion and culture.

They have been beat back and down, many times in the past. Read your history of the Middle East and of Europe. This time they have the backing, the money and the raw recruits that they have been teaching to hate everything not theirs and anyone not with them for at least the last forty years. They have been training them and preparing them almost as long.

Should we all just dispair and give up? No, we can not, we can not because if we do, they win.

Believe me, you don't want that to happen.

This is my post

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

5:39 PM  
Blogger johninnz said...

Rockhound. "The decision will still be on the shoulders of Rose and people like her to go vote."
It seems to me that you are implying that Rose would be weak not to vote, and I still see that as placing too much of the burden on her, rather than being willing to admit that providing such an insecure environment for elections means a failure on the part of your country: which I repeat decided for spurious reasons to conquer hers, and now claims to be bringing her "freedom and democracy" under impossible conditions.
In any case, the government elected, if one is, is meant to be drawing up a new Constitution for Iraq. Most Iraqi comments that I see on the Blogs do not express hatred for other religious or ethnic groups, they are tolerant like Rose is. Low Sunni participation in this election does not mean they will be necessarily be unfairly marginalised in whatever final form of government emerges. Again, most Iraqi comments that I see tend towards locally based rather than proportional forms of representation, and much of Iraq contains mixed populations. The proportional make-up of these elections seems to be totally alien to the concept of representation practised in the US - it’s all locally based.
I think I would say Rose vote if you can. If you are sure you can do so in safety. Ensuring that safety is not the responsibility of your countrymen, since you are not a free country, you are being ruled by another country which has taken charge of you. Why risk your life for them?

1:15 AM  
Blogger TxRockhound said...

John,

My comment was intended to mean exactly what it said...that the DECISION to go vote is on HER shoulders, not yours, not mine, and not anybody else who knows her or reads her blog. She has to decide what is important to her and if those priorities are served by voting. I obviously believe she should vote, but it is her decision whether she does or not. You can twist it any way you want to make it sound like I am trying to force her to go vote, but I am not. I simply hope that she and others like her recognize the importance of the opportunity before them in the historical context of their country's history, and not just in the context of their day to day safety.

I will ignore your digs at America, because I refuse to make Rose's blog the place to debate American foreign policy decision-making. There are plenty of other places to debate that on the net.

7:20 AM  
Blogger johninnz said...

Rockhound: Well I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one. If I were placed in a situation where I had to take a risk, I would certainly want to understand what had caused that situation. But anyway:
What about my second point, that because it is totally proportional this election is a bit of a foregone conclusion anyway, whether or not a lot of Sunni abstain? (And it’s already been suggested that Sunni leaders could be brought into Government anyway, even if not formally elected.) Surely the election that’s really going to matter is the next one, end of 2005 I think, which will hopefully be totally Iraqi devised and conducted? Is that a factor that Rose might consider in weighing up the risk?
Probably it also partly depends on the nature and security of the part of Baghdad she lives in?

4:19 PM  
Blogger Exadios said...

"So is it getting from BAD to WORSE or not?": I don't know. It is truely terrible.

3:56 AM  
Blogger Pat in NC said...

Rose, may God grant you wisdom as you make your choice in how you will respond to my elections. I do understand that Sunnis are candidates in many of the parties running for election. Many good Iraqis will vote and many good Iraqis will stay home and tend to their families. May God bless all good Iraqis and may the elections provide wise and good leaders.

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