Friday, November 26, 2004

Varieties

hello friends, I become too lazy for writing posts, sometimes I want to write but I don’t know what to write. I don’t want to make all my posts the same complaining about our bad lives that we are living.

I still have the flue, for more than a week, actually I became much better two days ago, and I went to take a bath but as usual the electricity went off and I could not use the hair dryer, I tried to operate our generator so I went outside with my hair wet, but it didn’t work. and I think I have the flue again, this time stronger than before. The bad news: my husband now has the flue too.

To all my friends who sent me emails: thank you very much for your support and prayers. I should send you replies, but I’m too lazy, and for those who asked me questions before, sorry If I missed anyone from you, I received many emails and I might forget to answer some, so please don’t hesitate to remind me if I forget and I will be honored to answer them all.

Some of you asked me how do I connect to the internet? I have three ways. the first one through phone line at home, I use internet prepaid cards. the second way, my husband have a direct internet connection in his office so sometimes I write a post and he posts for me and checks my emails, the third way, internet cafés, which are many, and I usually go there only when I have to make research for something and when I have to use the internet for a long time.

For the last comment I had from Sherif, well Sherif, I wrote many posts expressing my opinions about this war and you can check them. But the thing I did not write about is my point of view a bout Fallujah and I’m going to answer you in this post.

I think Fallujah needed a campaign similar to this long time before the terrorists and gangs strengthened themselves and made large cells and killed many innocent people. Maybe if they did it before they might have made it less bloody with less casualties and without destructing the whole city and driving away thousands of people from their homes and forced them to live in tents without source of heat in this cold weather. As I heard from people living in Fallujah, they had enough from those terrorists , but they could not do any thing against them because the terrorists would kill them with their families. I heard that some of the terrorists forced many families to have them at their homes and I heard that many of those families were killed during some attacks by the US forces. And that’s why the people of Fallujah want to put an end to it. Many of Saddam’s loyalists ran away to Fallujah and stayed there after Baghdad’s fall and I think they made some connections with other groups and co-operated with them. especially Saddam’s inelegance, because as I know most of them ran away to Falluja and I became surprised when I heard (during the war) that they escaped there, but now I understand why. One of the kidnapped people whom I know from far away said that they took him to Fallujah after kidnapping and he said the kidnappers were so organized even they were working in offices and had a lot of documents put all on CDs, and had lot’s of names in their lists to be checked, but they released him after paying a very large amount of money and he was lucky for not being killed. The only thing I did not understand is that the US army surrounded the city for long time but they did not check who left the city and made many of those terrorists escape to other cities like Mosul.

When I review the sequence of actions that the US army follows in solving problems, I found it similar to Saddam’s. Destroying all that come in front of them, act strongly without mercy, like killing that wounded person in the mosque!, random arrests, destroying houses if they suspect that there are some fighters in them. Maybe Saddam’s policy was right, and this is the only way that works with us. In the end only the innocent people pay and suffer hard. My prayers to those innocent people who had been killed or became homeless, my heart and mind with them. It is so hard when you don’t know if you will be back and if you do, you might find yourself and your family without home to live in or a place to stay. I know the government promised to compromise them, but they did not say how much they will pay them and when? Money doesn’t replace the losses of the memories you had in that place or that corner nor replace the losses of your beloved ones.

I wish we were avoided this violence from the beginning, and again I blame the Americans for the mistakes they have made after Baghdad’s fall. They could have simply minimized this blood shed from the beginning if they had acted wisely.

316 Comments:

Blogger MonicaR said...

First - I am sorry that you still have the flu. It's going around here, too and it can be very worrisome when the kiddies fevers get up over 104 F.

Second - just so you know that you'll be hitting a nerve about the Marine killing the terrorist in Fallujah. I - for one - fully support that Marine. The more dead terrorists the better as far as I'm concerned. When we finally went into Fallujah it was with no mercy for the thugs that would kill our military and kidnap, murder and terrorize honest hard working Iraqi citizens. Not only Iraqi citizens but peaceful foreign aid and construction workers. Atleast we don't set their bodies on fire, beat them and hang them from bridge.

End of rant.

Hope things start looking up for you soon.

11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They could have simply minimized this blood shed from the beginning if they had acted wisely.

well, cleversticks. you've even got the benefit of hindsight, so tell us how you'd have played it wisely.

i suspect you have no concept of the disgust many people have in the west for most iraqis. one can well imagine what the american and british soldiers tell their compatriots about you people on their return to their countries.

incidentally, i have no particular interest in iraq. i am a south african.

1:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I review the sequence of actions that the US army follows in solving problems, I found it similar to Saddam’s. Destroying all that come in front of them, act strongly without mercy,

If this were true there wouldn't
1 be a building standing in Fallujah
2 or in Iraq.

Please try not to be so silly.
Steve

1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Rose of Baghdad,

Thank you for providing a window directly into your world. It helps us to imagine life in Iraq and to understand a little better the very complicated situation there.

I suppose that whatever you feel, whatever you say, whatever you do, there will always be some people who react convulsively if you say anything they think they disagree with. Some people don't know how to listen.

In my family we have an expression:

"You can't win for losing".

Take care, dear.

Love from Tilli (Mojave Desert)

3:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, we should have finished the job in Fallujah in April but the U.S. was forced to quit because of the pressure put on them by other nations. Caving in to these demands made matters worse by allowing the terrorists to build a huge base of operations. This time the U.S. and Iraqi forces had to wait until the interim government of Iraq ran out of diplomatic options. That's why the town was surrounded but the U.S. and Iraqi forces did nothing until they were told by the Iraqi government to go in and this time not stop until the terrorists were gone. It is now clear to everyone - all those who pressured the U.S. - that it was a mistake to stop in April and to allow the terrorists to do their bloody work and it has cost the lives of U.S. and Iraqi soldiers and Iraqi civilians. There will be no more waiting. We will drive them out from all over Iraq - completely this time - and allow the Iraqi people to vote and ultimately have the government of their own choosing. I wish for you peace and freedom. Blessings upon you and your family. California

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I wish we were avoided this violence from the beginning, and again I blame the Americans for the mistakes they have made after Baghdad’s fall. They could have simply minimized this blood shed from the beginning if they had acted wisely."

Here's a thought. We wish this could have all been avoided earlier, too. Remember, the first Gulf War. Your country invaded Kuwait. Did you rise up against Saddam? No. You're likely part of the minority of Iraqis who lived well under Uncle Saddam.

9:01 PM  
Blogger Ambiorix said...

Dear Rose:
I enjoy your blg very much. I just found it a couple of weeks ago and have been checking it every day.

I hope that you and your family will get over this bout of the flu very quickly if you haven't yet. I am sorry that you have to endure abusive comments from rude readers but do not let that affect you. You are providing a great service to people outside Iraq by letting us know what is happening and how it is affecting the "common" people of Iraq. In return I would hope that we can help you by providing you the other sides of the stories that you might not get.

California Anonymous, above, already explained somewhat harshly why the siege of Fallujah was delayed. Another reason was to allow for the training of the Iraqi National Guards. The purpose for this was help with the public relation aspect of this offensive: to have the Iraqi Interim Government give the order and to put a partial Iraqi face on the action itself (the ING).

I would also like to provide you some additional information relative to the shooting of the wounded terrorist by the Marine. I hear that this information was not reported in the arab world. The day before the shooting, this same Marine was injured and one member of his team was killed while checking the body of a terrorist. That terrorist's body had been booby-tapped and exploded when the Marine (now dead) touched it. In additions, there have been numerous reports of wounded terrorists acting dead and then, when a soldier approaches to check upon them, they either blow themselves and anybody close up or they start shooting. When viewed in this light, it become more plausible that the Marine shot the wounded terrorist after noticing him moving and shouting that he was "faking dead".

This reminds me of an American Indian commentary I once read that " ten peoples sitting around a drum, all look and see the same drum but each of them has a different view of the drum". Therefor, I would like to remind everyone that there is always more than one side to a story, even if only one side is being reported. So let's all keep an open mind in every instance of our life. It is not easy (especially with a spouse !).

Rose, one last word to give you hope and resolve. I do not know if it is being reported in Iraq but you can take heart in the situation in Ukraine. While the current gvernment fraudulently fixed the presidential election for its candidate, the people have been protesting peacefully in the snow and cold. They confronted the riot police by attaching flowers to the policers' shields. While the battle is not won yet, the Supreme Court of Ukraine has ordered an investigation of the election which many foreign observers, including Americans, have declared to be fraudulent. I also read a BBC story that the reporters of the government controled TV station and other TV channels have rebelled against the government lies and are reporting a more balanced news. As I am typing this, FOX News reports that the police, even the riot police, is now taking the side of the people. Again, the battle is not won yet but big steps have already been achieved and a number of countries, starting with the U.S., have declared the results of the election unacceptable.

As you see "freedom is on the move" and is worth fighting for, preferably by peaceful ways.

God bless you, your family and the Iraqi people, and the spirit and an open mind.

9:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

re: the marine shooting the insurgent inside the mosque

I like to think about things from different angles. What if the marine and the insurgent were switched? what if it was an insurgent walking into a mosque, seeing a wounded and (apparently) unarmed US marine, and then he shot him in the head? (this is called "dead-checking" by the way... making sure the enemy is dead and cannot hurt you anymore. Lots of civilians get killed this way.)

What I think is this: no matter who was doing the shooting, this is part of war. The fault lies in the war, not the shooter.

And to those who point out that the insurgents play dead, booby-trap dead Iraqi bodies, fake surrenders, dress like civilians, hit and run and hide, etc...... well, the other side is not playing fair or nice either. They have night vision goggles, heat detector video cameras, airplanes with 2,000 lbs bombs (and how precise is THAT?), helicopters with rockets, etc., etc., etc. This is a guerilla war, and usually the guerillas win.

10:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You made a comment that you wish the Americans had not made the mistakes they had made....

being of a cynical turn of mind, I think everything they did, they did on purpose.

War is the most violent and destructive thing a group of people can do.... whoever starts a war when none existed is not of moral character, and does not have good intentions at heart.

just my opinion.

10:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Rose, John from N.Z.
If you want something to write about that should not stir up any arguments from America, I would be very interested in any comment you wanted to make about Abu Kaheel's latest post in
http://iraquna.blogspot.com, "Sunni and Shia Iraq - intermingling." Where is he right, where is he wrong, in your opinion?

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoever starts a war when none existed is not of moral character

well, we have them coming out of the woodwork. this fellow is abviously a baathist or baathist sympathiser. he/she would prefer sadam to still be in power. feathering the nest of his buddies. and torturing to death any objectioners. and perhaps a few extra who just might be thinking of objectioning. to encourage the others.

england declared war on nazi germany in 1939. stood against the nazis on their own. in the entire world. all the others thrown in the towel. or about to. people like the french and the italians just waiting to throw in their lot with the nazis. no support from the good old usa who were to prove late for an important war once again, as they has been coming into ww1 in 1917. how dare you suggest the english - by declaring war - were not of moral character.

poor old england was also fighting terrorism in northern ireland in the 60s/70s/80s/90s, and the good old usa was supporting terrorists by allowing them to pass the hat around everywhere in usa (in every bar in new york city - i was there.) the yanks were scrupulously legalistic. after all, they were only collecting for families of terrorists, etc. one wonders how understanding americans would be if al khaeda were to pass the hat around in london and other capitals of the world - even if only for bin laden's family, etc.
americans make me sick by their duplicity. but we are stuck with them as defenders of the free world.

what strikes me as weird is how these iraqis were so supine when sadam was murdering them, their wives and children. and suddenly they've become these ferocious little tigers defending their freedom against americans. disgusting scum. i can't understand why the americans don't just nuke the place. well, i can understand it, they're too weak kneed.

1:57 PM  
Blogger MonicaR said...

I TRIED to tell you that you'd hit a nerve!!! LOL!

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well now I think I'm starting to get the picture. I think the term "lazy" really sums it up quite well. Why do so many Iraqis sit on the sideline and expect the Americans to solve everything perfectly. Many of us want to see you succeed and live prosperous and happy lives, but our patience for this attitude that all your problems are the fault of America and must be solved flawlessly by America is getting old. If you prefer to be ruled by Saddam then maybe you should vote for him? The US military has provided an opportunity for change. Change is not a perfect path. But there must be the will and the desire to fight for freedom and the equal rights of all Iraqis. Why are there not groups of citizens banding together to squash these remnants of Saddam. I'm concerned that this opportunity is slipping away due to lazy indifference. America cannot win this historic battle for freedom for you. I apologize if this offends. Please know that I am truly hopeful of your future health and happiness.

12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well now I think I'm starting to get the picture. I think the term "lazy" really sums it up quite well. Why do so many Iraqis sit on the sideline and expect the Americans to solve everything perfectly. Many of us want to see you succeed and live prosperous and happy lives, but our patience for this attitude that all your problems are the fault of America and must be solved flawlessly by America is getting old. If you prefer to be ruled by Saddam then maybe you should vote for him? The US military has provided an opportunity for change. Change is not a perfect path. But there must be the will and the desire to fight for freedom and the equal rights of all Iraqis. Why are there not groups of citizens banding together to squash these remnants of Saddam. I'm concerned that this opportunity is slipping away due to lazy indifference. America cannot win this historic battle for freedom for you. I apologize if this offends. Please know that I am truly hopeful of your future health and happiness.

12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

back in 1939, Germany started a war.

England joined in a war already started to defend Poland.

I see a difference.

7:08 PM  
Blogger littlewhy said...

Hello Rose,
I too have been very frustrated with the peace. I wish it had been handled better. I hope that the decent ordinary people of Fallujah will be able to run their own city now, with the help of the IP and ING. You have one of the best blogs, especially since you have connections in both Baghdad and Mosul.

I'm a little frustrated that the Iraqi blogs are all Baghdad or Mosul. Do you know anyone who would blog who lives in say, Kirkuk or Basrah? It would be great to get eyewitness reports from other places in Iraq.
thanks,
littlewhy
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wintersoldier.blogspot.com

8:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Rose,

I am thankful to read your blog. I am intrigued by your point of view. It's good for everyone to read your words and realize that as people we are very alike.

You have a 3 year old daughter. I have a 20 year old son, he was once three. He is in the Navy now. So is his best freind. My Uncle, his son and many others who are close to us. My son is not in Iraq. But the rest are. They are trying to do good things and hope to get the Iraqi people back on their feet again and voting.

I just hope that you and yours will appreciate all of the sacrifices that we are making. You Iraqis also should rise up and take back what is yours, control over your own future and freedom. You can claim your own destiny and pass that down to your daughter. What a gift that is...

3:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Rose,

I am thankful to read your blog. I am intrigued by your point of view. It's good for everyone to read your words and realize that as people we are very alike.

You have a 3 year old daughter. I have a 20 year old son, he was once three. He is in the Navy now. So is his best freind. My Uncle, his son and many others who are close to us. My son is not in Iraq. But the rest are. They are trying to do good things and hope to get the Iraqi people back on their feet again and voting.

I just hope that you and yours will appreciate all of the sacrifices that we are making. You Iraqis also should rise up and take back what is yours, control over your own future and freedom. You can claim your own destiny and pass that down to your daughter. What a gift that is...

3:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm curious what you say to someone in the USA who is convinced that the Iraq transition is going very well. Here are some comments from such a person, taken out of context (the conversation is comparing conditions now to conditions under Saddam) but you can understand the meaning:

I never said they lived in "bliss". I said fewer Iraqis are dieing now. Why isn't that important to you?Their country is not destroyed, that is nonsense. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden were destroyed...not Iraq. (not even Fallujah was as destroyed as Dresden, or some cities after a big hurricane, yet the Fallujah rulers brought it on themselves)Iraqi's have more services now than they had before, did you know that? More children go to school now. More healthcare is available now. Better food and clothing are available now than under Hussein.heck, they even have 10's of thousands of cell phones and internet connections now which they NEVER had before.Another person said this:

If refugees begin streaming out of Iraq, I will begin thinking things are getting worse there. Unless that happens, it is safe to assume we are dealing with a pack of leftist lies and propaganda trying to embarass the US and weaken our position in Iraq. You can selectively interview, and you can fudge polls, but you can't really stop people from streaming over the borders away from a country that is a hellhole. Nothing like that is happening, so we can assume that these "hellhole" reports are overblown in the extreme.(The above comments are from this page, which contains much more discussion about Iraq.)

It's difficult for us in America to know what the truth is when we get such conflicting reports, and everyone seems certain that their perception is accurate and others are lying or misled.

Any light you can shed on the above perspective will be much appreciated. Thanks, and thanks for blogging. I wish things were better for you in Iraq, and hope that they improve soon.

4:14 AM  
Blogger Scott from Oregon said...

Hi Rose-- Just wanted to thank you for your efforts. Also, when you get 'taken to task' by some superduper prowarring (mostly) American types, bear in mind that it is easy for extreme views to overshadow more moderate voices. They seem to WRITE louder than the rest of us.... Please be safe and take care of yourself until your flu is gone...

11:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for taking the time to post in your blog. I Hope you are feeling better.

Please remember that what the media shows is only the most exciting events. All the boring simple helpfulness never makes the news.

The effect is that whenever something goes wrong, there is a strong negative reaction, nad the things that go right are usually ignored and then taken for granted.

The media do this because it is the best way for them to get lots of people watching, and this sells more advertisements. They are not wicked for just showing the bad stuff, its merely business. But it can cause people to lose perspective and just focus on the bad things. During a conflict there will always be pleanty of bad things to show on TV. We do not desire this, we desire to do no harm at all, but we are not perfect people. Sometimes we fail horribly and when we do it is tragic and shameful. We do our best, and sometimes our best is just not very good at all.

5:22 PM  
Blogger Harkonnendog said...

Thank you so much for posting your thoughts and feelings for the world read. Your honesty is wonderful. While I disagree with a lot of what you say, I understand that I can't really understand what you are going through. I can only hope that, if I was suffering as you have suffered, I would be able to show as much class and wisdom as you have.
Having said all that, I must disagree about your characterization of the U.S. in Fallujah.
The U.S. Marines are not acting "without mercy." More than 70 Marines have died for Iraqis, in fact for Fallujhans, since the attack began. The Marines had NO REASON to go into the city except mercy. If they had wanted to, they could have cordoned off the city with interlocking fields of fire, and used B52s to carpet bomb the entire city into dust. It would have been cheaper, faster, and resulted in 0 causualites.
If the decent people of Fallujah had stood up to the terrorists in the 1st place NONE of this would have been necessary. Instead they chose to cower in fear, or embrace the terrorists when they first started taking Fallujah over. This is not the fault of the U.S., but of the decent people of Fallujah.
The U.S. cannot endlessly fight for the decent people of Iraq. Eventually, they will have to either stand up for themselves, or be dogs to be kicked around by another Saddam. Evil always wins when the good people are cowards.

1:51 PM  
Blogger The Oracle said...

Rose,
I enjoyed reading your blog and my prayers are with you. I've been taught and believe that everything in life happens for a reason and God's plan and purpose for the world will ultimately triumph in the end. Please take solace in knowing that God loves you and so do I!

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Blogger Squigoth said...

""I blame the Americans for the mistakes they have made after Baghdad’s fall. They could have simply minimized this blood shed from the beginning if they had acted wisely.""

Well I for one blame you Iraqis for alot of mistakes as well. You Iraqis need to get off your asses and retake you country. Can't you see we're trying to give the damn thing back to you?

If these elections fail becouse of poor turnout I say to hell with it and we sould leave you Iraqis to your own fate.

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